Timing

Ice is a finite resource. To get out safely I generally get up unreasonably early. I can't imagine climbing under another party being fun, and having fun is what it's about. I enjoy the edge, but not because I've put myself in a poor position. I had 4 hours recently before 20+ folks turned up at what is admittedly the practice cliff closest to New York City. But I still get very nervous when there are that many folks around, no matter how well we coexist.